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Open At Last

July 9th 2019


So, just the wastewater aspect took nine months, but we went to work on everything else once that was resolved.

We are starting slowly, just to be sure we get our sea legs, opening just for Saturdays and Sundays while we dial things in for the kitchen. The plan is to add Fridays in August, Thursdays in September, and Wednesdays in October.

Long Time No Blog, Again!

June 1st 2018

Yes, it has been a very long time since the last blog entry. It’s been a bit of a voyage searching for a location, not all of it is worth telling.

What is worth telling is that we have at last signed a lease, and it turns out it’s right in our home town of Centerport! Watch for news on when we actually open, at 94 Washington Drive. Because of the work involved, time being a limited resource, we will be pulling back a bit with our participation at farmers’ markets this year. We’ll only be in Babylon and Northport on alternating weekends.

The brewery itself won’t be moving, this will be a satellite location with a small kitchen where we can create and serve food along with our beer.

Map of Centerport

Location, Location, Location?

Saturday January 2, 2016

To briefly recap:
Mid-2014 saw our agreement with a landlord in Northport fall apart, by year’s end we found a suitable space in Smithtown. Unfortunately, after beginning demo work on the interior during last winter’s heavy snows, the septic system at the Smithtown location was found to be failing and in danger of collapse. A few months were spent working with our architect and the health department on possible solutions, but none were to be had. That left us in June of 2015 back on the hunt for a new space.

Finding a site for the expanded version of the brewery has continued to be a challenge. Multiple factors must be satisfied to successfully establish a location.

First, the building itself must be suitable for a brewery (strong floors, adequate ceiling height, gas service, sewer preferable to septic, etc.). Also, does the location of the building make sense for the business model?

Second, can a deal be made with the landlord? Not every landlord will even consider a brewery as a tenant, and not every landlord is someone you can make a mutually-satisfactory deal with.

Finally, there are all sorts of government agencies that might have something to say that can prevent the establishment of a brewery at your preferred location. There could be zoning restrictions, the brewery can’t be within 200 feet of a school or house of worship, the health department can kill a deal if the building is not on sewer, etc.

Recent examples of sites that did not work out illustrate how the three main factors must all come together.

In Farmingdale, we identified an excellent location (new construction near the train station) and found a very supportive local government. After extensive negotiations, we were able to come to a satisfactory agreement with the landlord. However, serious structural issues were discovered four months in. Despite repeated assurances that the concrete floor over a basement parking garage was strong enough for the brewery, only when we got a structural engineer to take into account our actual operations was it discovered that we were exceeding the capacity of the floor by 200%.

In Babylon, we found another government happy to have us at a location we found in the north-east corner of the village. In this case, after a number of meetings over the course of a month and being welcomed as a prospective tenant, the landlord changed his mind about having a brewery in his building.

In Kings Park, we found a building and location we were very happy with, and a landlord we had good accord with. The health department, however, killed the deal. There is a formula of property size, designated use, and gallons-per-day flow rate for wastewater when a property is on septic rather than sewer. Our calculations of the brewery operations along with a tasting room were within the allowed rate for the property. However, the county health department insisted on applying a higher flow rate (that of a full bar) to the tasting room. This put us over the allowed gallons per day flow rate for that property. A number of other sites in north-western Suffolk had the same flow-rate issues.

Other sites were deemed impractical (some too expensive, some too small, some were problematic due to town and village restrictions).

So, where are we as of today?

Nothing to be revealed as yet, the hunt continues. We are on the trail of a number of prospects... more to follow when we have news to share...

Smithtown Septic Woes

Wednesday July 15, 2015

Well, a hell of a lot has been going on since my last blog post way back in early March.

Things were looking good with the space we leased (270 West Main Street, Smithtown) until we discovered some serious septic structural issues. Long story short, after months of trying to resolve this with the landlord, the county health department, and our resourceful architect, we had to terminate our lease there this week and move on. There ultimately was no solution which would allowed us to brew there as planned, and we could not even have a tasting room serving up our beer there.

We have some good leads on alternate spaces, news of that to follow as soon as we have it.

What's on Tap Where Roundup

Wednesday March 4, 2015

Now that the permit’s in place, demo begins in earnest in Smithtown! While the brewery is in transition to Smithtown, I’m still getting some beer out and about.

Following is what is on tap and where:

Purgatory Porter
(5.6% Robust Porter)

Hell Gate
(8.5% ABV Belgian-Inspired Golden Ale)

Location (1)
3-bbl System (13)
6ixth Sense Ale (5)
Availability (25)
Babylon (1)
Beached Blonde (6)
Beer Bread (1)
Beer Culture (7)
Beer Dinner (1)
Beer Sausage (1)
Belfry Brown (1)
Bistro (1)
Bitter Wheat (2)
Bohemia (1)
bottles (2)
Bottling (2)
Brooklyn (2)
Cask Ale (2)
Centerport (2)
Collaboration Saison (1)
craft Beer Culture (1)
Dogfish Head (3)
Draft Magazine (1)
Expansion (8)
Eye Chart Ale (2)
Farm Brewery (1)
Farmers' Markets (3)
Farmingdale (2)
Festivals (2)
Friends Of The Farm (3)
Gersten-Weizen (1)
Glasses (1)
Golden Tap Awards (1)
Grodziskie (8)
Harborfields Hefeweizen (17)
Hell Gate (1)
Hellgate Golden Ale (6)
Hellgate Golden Ale Hellsmoke Porter (1)
Hellsmoke Porter (48)
Homebrewers (1)
Honey-Basil Ale (4)
Hops (10)
I.P.A (1)
Kings Park (1)
Labels (1)
Licensing (11)
Local (4)
Location (8)
Long Ireland Brewery (3)
Long Island (2)
Long Island Beer & Malt Enthusiasts (4)
Long Island Craft Beer Week (3)
Long Island Craft Breweries (1)
Long Island Pale Ale (1)
Long Island Potato Stout (13)
Luce & Hawkins (2)
mild-mannered ale (1)
New Brewery (1)
New York City (2)
New York State (4)
North Fork Craft Beer Festival (1)
Northport (8)
Northport (1)
Northport Farmers' Market (2)
NYC (1)
Old Walt Smoked Wit Beer (9)
Organic (1)
Production Batches (3)
Pumpkin Ale (1)
Purgatory Porter (1)
Raison D'Etre (2)
Sabco Brew-Magic (1)
Saison (3)
Smithtown (5)
Smoker (1)
Soft Opening (1)
Stout Experiments (1)
Suckerpunch (2)
Summer Seasonal (2)
Surge Protector IPA (1)
T-Shirts (1)
TAP NY (1)
Test Batches (18)
The Blind Bat Brewery Club (1)
The Gate (2)
The New Yorker (2)
Vlad The Inhaler (9)
Wheatley Hills Weizenbock (12)